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		<title>By: SpudsMcKenzie4</title>
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		<description>I&#039;m back.  First off, I want to say I agree with you!  Not on this in particular, but about a consumption tax you mentioned in an earlier reply to a comment.  A fair tax is the only good and fair way to tax.  Not tax would be better, but the government has to run.  Let&#039;s hope this will get done one day.  Go Ron Paul.  Never will happen though.  Did you know about fairtax.org?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I also somewhat agree with you here.  I know I call it a democracy.  What I mean when I say this is that we democratically elect our representatives to the government.  So when I say, &quot;that&#039;s the great thing about a Democracy&quot;, it means that it&#039;s great that we have a choice of who governs us.  Not that we are given great choices, mind you.  Look at our last election.  I, once again, had to vote for who I thought was the lesser of two evils.  I think I&#039;m just gonna start voting Libertarian across the board.  A bit too conservative for me, but I agree with more of their ideas than the dems and repubs.  Rambling again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know that, technically, we are a republic.  But only barely.  As time has gone by, we have become closer and closer to a democracy.  For example, at the beginning of our republic, only white males with a certain amount of land could vote.  So technically,  a majority could not rule.  Over time, it became that all residents of legal age could vote.  So, over time, our government became a democratic republic, so to speak.  Or a democratically representative republic, if you prefer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the federal level, the 17th amendment changed the senate from being state appointed representatives to being elected directly by the voters.  Making us even closer to a democracy.  I happen to disagree with this amendment.  The purpose of the Senate was to represent the needs of the states.  The house of representatives was for the people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the only thing holding us together as a republic is the fact that the president is elected by the electoral college and the supreme court is appointed by the government.  Also, the fact that most people don&#039;t vote.  Does the super majority requirement qualify here?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, I&#039;m no expert.  Far from it.  I don&#039;t claim to know much about, well, anything.  So I may be way off base here.  But, that&#039;s the way I see it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, by the way, I need to throw this in here since I&#039;ll probably be banned again.  You call me liberal.  Which I&#039;m not, really.  I have liberal views, I have conservative views, I have progressive views.  But I don&#039;t mind being called a liberal.  I decided to look up the meaning of being liberal and this is what I found (I&#039;m not going to list all the definition, to many):&lt;br&gt;1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs (I&#039;m OK with this)&lt;br&gt;2. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.&lt;br&gt;3. favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression.&lt;br&gt;4. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies&lt;br&gt;5. free from prejudice or bigotry, tolerant.&lt;br&gt;6. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.&lt;br&gt;7. not strict or rigorous; free; not literal&lt;br&gt;8. of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As opposed, the definition of a conservative&lt;br&gt;1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s the only definition that applies, according to the dictionary.  Wikipedia defines conservatism as a political attitude that advocates institutions and traditional practices that have developed organically, thus emphasizing stability and continuity.  I think we can both agree that we were failing on both these counts.  That why a change in rule is good from time to time.  To keep things in balance.  The liberals have their time now, soon the conservative will.  This is a good thing.  If you ask me, the best scenario is to have a president from one party with the house/senate controlled by the opposite.  This is when some of the best work is done.  We&#039;ll see if this is the case coming up.  It doesn&#039;t look like it though, it&#039;s been a bit combative lately, which doesn&#039;t benefit anyone.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But anyway, you see my point.  Really, the basic difference between a real liberal and a real conservative is that a liberal wants to change things, to create progress (good or bad is debatable), a conservative what&#039;s things to stay the way the are or were.  If you ask me, the country is better having both.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I apologize in advance, for the long post, and for violating your, twice now, ban.  I really need to start my own blog or something.  And no, I&#039;m not what you call a blog troll.  I&#039;m not even sure what that means.  Yours is the only one I read.  Started with the Health Care post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m back.  First off, I want to say I agree with you!  Not on this in particular, but about a consumption tax you mentioned in an earlier reply to a comment.  A fair tax is the only good and fair way to tax.  Not tax would be better, but the government has to run.  Let&#39;s hope this will get done one day.  Go Ron Paul.  Never will happen though.  Did you know about fairtax.org?</p>
<p>I also somewhat agree with you here.  I know I call it a democracy.  What I mean when I say this is that we democratically elect our representatives to the government.  So when I say, &#8220;that&#39;s the great thing about a Democracy&#8221;, it means that it&#39;s great that we have a choice of who governs us.  Not that we are given great choices, mind you.  Look at our last election.  I, once again, had to vote for who I thought was the lesser of two evils.  I think I&#39;m just gonna start voting Libertarian across the board.  A bit too conservative for me, but I agree with more of their ideas than the dems and repubs.  Rambling again.</p>
<p>I know that, technically, we are a republic.  But only barely.  As time has gone by, we have become closer and closer to a democracy.  For example, at the beginning of our republic, only white males with a certain amount of land could vote.  So technically,  a majority could not rule.  Over time, it became that all residents of legal age could vote.  So, over time, our government became a democratic republic, so to speak.  Or a democratically representative republic, if you prefer.</p>
<p>On the federal level, the 17th amendment changed the senate from being state appointed representatives to being elected directly by the voters.  Making us even closer to a democracy.  I happen to disagree with this amendment.  The purpose of the Senate was to represent the needs of the states.  The house of representatives was for the people.</p>
<p>I think the only thing holding us together as a republic is the fact that the president is elected by the electoral college and the supreme court is appointed by the government.  Also, the fact that most people don&#39;t vote.  Does the super majority requirement qualify here?</p>
<p>Of course, I&#39;m no expert.  Far from it.  I don&#39;t claim to know much about, well, anything.  So I may be way off base here.  But, that&#39;s the way I see it.</p>
<p>And, by the way, I need to throw this in here since I&#39;ll probably be banned again.  You call me liberal.  Which I&#39;m not, really.  I have liberal views, I have conservative views, I have progressive views.  But I don&#39;t mind being called a liberal.  I decided to look up the meaning of being liberal and this is what I found (I&#39;m not going to list all the definition, to many):<br />1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs (I&#39;m OK with this)<br />2. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.<br />3. favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression.<br />4. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies<br />5. free from prejudice or bigotry, tolerant.<br />6. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.<br />7. not strict or rigorous; free; not literal<br />8. of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman</p>
<p>As opposed, the definition of a conservative<br />1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change</p>
<p>That&#39;s the only definition that applies, according to the dictionary.  Wikipedia defines conservatism as a political attitude that advocates institutions and traditional practices that have developed organically, thus emphasizing stability and continuity.  I think we can both agree that we were failing on both these counts.  That why a change in rule is good from time to time.  To keep things in balance.  The liberals have their time now, soon the conservative will.  This is a good thing.  If you ask me, the best scenario is to have a president from one party with the house/senate controlled by the opposite.  This is when some of the best work is done.  We&#39;ll see if this is the case coming up.  It doesn&#39;t look like it though, it&#39;s been a bit combative lately, which doesn&#39;t benefit anyone.</p>
<p>But anyway, you see my point.  Really, the basic difference between a real liberal and a real conservative is that a liberal wants to change things, to create progress (good or bad is debatable), a conservative what&#39;s things to stay the way the are or were.  If you ask me, the country is better having both.</p>
<p>I apologize in advance, for the long post, and for violating your, twice now, ban.  I really need to start my own blog or something.  And no, I&#39;m not what you call a blog troll.  I&#39;m not even sure what that means.  Yours is the only one I read.  Started with the Health Care post.</p>
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		<title>By: SpudsMcKenzie2</title>
		<link>http://blog.flecksoflife.com/2010/02/03/america-is-not-a-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-1402</link>
		<dc:creator>SpudsMcKenzie2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m back.  First off, I want to say I agree with you!  Not on this in particular, but about a consumption tax.  A fair tax is the only good and fair way to tax.  Not tax would be better, but the government has to run.  Let&#039;s hope this will get done one day.  Go Ron Paul.  Never will happen though.  Did you know about fairtax.org?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I also somewhat agree with you here.  I know I call it a democracy.  What I mean when I say this is that we democratically elect our representatives to the government.  So when I say, &quot;that&#039;s the great thing about a Democracy&quot;, it means that it&#039;s great that we have a choice of who governs us.  Not that we are given great choices, mind you.  Look at our last election.  I, once again, had to vote for who I thought was the lesser of two evils.  I think I&#039;m just gonna start voting Libertarian across the board.  A bit too conservative for me, but I agree with more of their ideas than the dems and repubs.  Rambling again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know that, technically, we are a republic.  But only barely.  As time has gone by, we have become closer and closer to a democracy.  For example, at the beginning of our republic, only white males with a certain amount of land could vote.  So technically,  a majority could not rule.  Over time, it became that all residents of legal age could vote.  So, over time, our government became a democratic republic, so to speak.  Or a democratically representative republic, if you prefer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the federal level, the 17th amendment changed the senate from being state appointed representatives to being elected directly by the voters.  Making us even closer to a democracy.  I happen to disagree with this amendment.  The purpose of the Senate was to represent the needs of the states.  The house of representatives was for the people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the only thing holding us together as a republic is the fact that the president is elected by the electoral college and the supreme court is appointed by the government.  Also, the fact that most people don&#039;t vote.  Does the super majority requirement qualify here?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, I&#039;m no expert.  Far from it.  I don&#039;t claim to know much about, well, anything.  So I may be way off base here.  But, that&#039;s the way I see it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, by the way, I need to throw this in here since I&#039;ll probably be banned again.  You call me liberal.  Which I&#039;m not, really.  I have liberal views, I have conservative views, I have progressive views.  But I don&#039;t mind being called a liberal.  I decided to look up the meaning of being liberal and this is what I found (I&#039;m not going to list all the definition, to many):&lt;br&gt;1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs (I&#039;m OK with this)&lt;br&gt;2. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.&lt;br&gt;3. favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression.&lt;br&gt;4. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies&lt;br&gt;5. free from prejudice or bigotry, tolerant.&lt;br&gt;6. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.&lt;br&gt;7. not strict or rigorous; free; not literal&lt;br&gt;8. of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As opposed, the definition of a conservative&lt;br&gt;1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s the only definition that applies, according to the dictionary.  Wikipedia defines conservatism as a political attitude that advocates institutions and traditional practices that have developed organically, thus emphasizing stability and continuity.  I think we can both agree that we were failing on both these counts.  That why a change in rule is good from time to time.  To keep things in balance.  The liberals have their time now, soon the conservative will.  This is a good thing.  If you ask me, the best scenario is to have a president from one party with the house/senate controlled by the opposite.  This is when some of the best work is done.  We&#039;ll see if this is the case coming up.  It doesn&#039;t look like it though, it&#039;s been a bit combative lately, which doesn&#039;t benefit anyone.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But anyway, you see my point.  Really, the basic difference between a real liberal and a real conservative is that a liberal wants to change things, to create progress (good or bad is debatable), a conservative what&#039;s things to stay the way the are or were.  If you ask me, the country is better having both.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I apologize in advance, for the long post, and for violating your, twice now, ban.  I really need to start my own blog or something.  And no, I&#039;m not what you call a blog troll.  I&#039;m not even sure what that means.  Yours is the only one I read.  Started with the Health Care post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m back.  First off, I want to say I agree with you!  Not on this in particular, but about a consumption tax.  A fair tax is the only good and fair way to tax.  Not tax would be better, but the government has to run.  Let&#39;s hope this will get done one day.  Go Ron Paul.  Never will happen though.  Did you know about fairtax.org?</p>
<p>I also somewhat agree with you here.  I know I call it a democracy.  What I mean when I say this is that we democratically elect our representatives to the government.  So when I say, &#8220;that&#39;s the great thing about a Democracy&#8221;, it means that it&#39;s great that we have a choice of who governs us.  Not that we are given great choices, mind you.  Look at our last election.  I, once again, had to vote for who I thought was the lesser of two evils.  I think I&#39;m just gonna start voting Libertarian across the board.  A bit too conservative for me, but I agree with more of their ideas than the dems and repubs.  Rambling again.</p>
<p>I know that, technically, we are a republic.  But only barely.  As time has gone by, we have become closer and closer to a democracy.  For example, at the beginning of our republic, only white males with a certain amount of land could vote.  So technically,  a majority could not rule.  Over time, it became that all residents of legal age could vote.  So, over time, our government became a democratic republic, so to speak.  Or a democratically representative republic, if you prefer.</p>
<p>On the federal level, the 17th amendment changed the senate from being state appointed representatives to being elected directly by the voters.  Making us even closer to a democracy.  I happen to disagree with this amendment.  The purpose of the Senate was to represent the needs of the states.  The house of representatives was for the people.</p>
<p>I think the only thing holding us together as a republic is the fact that the president is elected by the electoral college and the supreme court is appointed by the government.  Also, the fact that most people don&#39;t vote.  Does the super majority requirement qualify here?</p>
<p>Of course, I&#39;m no expert.  Far from it.  I don&#39;t claim to know much about, well, anything.  So I may be way off base here.  But, that&#39;s the way I see it.</p>
<p>And, by the way, I need to throw this in here since I&#39;ll probably be banned again.  You call me liberal.  Which I&#39;m not, really.  I have liberal views, I have conservative views, I have progressive views.  But I don&#39;t mind being called a liberal.  I decided to look up the meaning of being liberal and this is what I found (I&#39;m not going to list all the definition, to many):<br />1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs (I&#39;m OK with this)<br />2. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.<br />3. favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression.<br />4. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies<br />5. free from prejudice or bigotry, tolerant.<br />6. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.<br />7. not strict or rigorous; free; not literal<br />8. of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman</p>
<p>As opposed, the definition of a conservative<br />1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change</p>
<p>That&#39;s the only definition that applies, according to the dictionary.  Wikipedia defines conservatism as a political attitude that advocates institutions and traditional practices that have developed organically, thus emphasizing stability and continuity.  I think we can both agree that we were failing on both these counts.  That why a change in rule is good from time to time.  To keep things in balance.  The liberals have their time now, soon the conservative will.  This is a good thing.  If you ask me, the best scenario is to have a president from one party with the house/senate controlled by the opposite.  This is when some of the best work is done.  We&#39;ll see if this is the case coming up.  It doesn&#39;t look like it though, it&#39;s been a bit combative lately, which doesn&#39;t benefit anyone.</p>
<p>But anyway, you see my point.  Really, the basic difference between a real liberal and a real conservative is that a liberal wants to change things, to create progress (good or bad is debatable), a conservative what&#39;s things to stay the way the are or were.  If you ask me, the country is better having both.</p>
<p>I apologize in advance, for the long post, and for violating your, twice now, ban.  I really need to start my own blog or something.  And no, I&#39;m not what you call a blog troll.  I&#39;m not even sure what that means.  Yours is the only one I read.  Started with the Health Care post.</p>
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